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PLANNING ISSUES


COULSDON MASTERPLAN

 

 

Stakeholder key issues for HCA and developer of Cane Hill and Coulsdon Town Centre

 

Background : Coulsdon is a very nice place to live, it has good transport road, rail, bus and direct links to Gatwick Airport, It has quality housing, schools and marvellous countryside. However, the town centre has been in steady decline and a state of flux since the closure of Cane Hill hospital 20 years ago and does not offer the local population what they need from a modern local town centre. The go ahead and construction of the Bypass along with the town centre makeover have improved the visual look and has also improved the town centre environment by making it more pedestrian friendly.

 

However, as confirmed by the Master Plan and its supporting reports the town centre and surrounding area lacks a number of things that make the town viable for the future. These include: the lack of housing mix which is biased towards larger property with large gardens, these are too large and expensive for young professional people, young families and for older people to maintain. A much better mix of smaller apartments and houses with small 2 bedroom houses with smaller gardens along with family 3 and 4 bedroom houses are needed.

 

The town centre lacks one of the big four or a larger specialist supermarket for the weekly family shop (although local residents do not support a huge supermarket). The town centre also lacks modern health centre facilities for the local medical practices with good parking and access by public transport.   There is a need to improve other local community and public services such as re-locating the Safer Neighbourhoods Police Teams into the town centre. The stakeholders would like to see a new public library combined with the CALAT adult learning centre and a possible innovation centre that also has meeting rooms.  We would also like to see improved leisure facilities including a skate park for younger people, a public garden and garden centre would be an asset. The town centre also needs to provide more employment to bring people into the town during the day.

 

We would like to see the development provide employment and training opportunities for local people. The developer should provide opportunities for local young people to obtain apprenticeships and training opportunities during and after construction. Local infrastructure such as health, education transport and utilities must be improved to cope with the new development.

 

In summary: the town centre needs to be made more attractive to bring people to it and for them to spend some time here. We see the Cane Hill development as assisting with this process and we wish to see a development that complements the town centre not competes with it, providing opportunities for local people.

 

“The Cane Hill site should be a catalyst for the regeneration of Coulsdon town centre and surrounding area”.

 

Six Key issues  for the Cane Hill site

 

1.       Protecting the views: Cane Hill is on a predominant site rising in height to the south of town and can be seen from everywhere in the surrounding area.  We would like to protect as much as the green outlook as possible from all the surrounding area. This includes views from Old Coulsdon, Farthing Downs, West Coulsdon, Woodcote and Hartley areas. From work already undertaken as part of the Master Plan a low level development from Lion Green to the existing admin buildings  along the centre spine of the site and contained were possible within the existing woodland belts would suit this.

 

2.       Transport Routes: This is a very important issue and we would like to see adequate parking on site for residents, visitors and businesses. 

(a)The site should not be a large cul-de-sac and should have more than one exit and there should be the ability to drive through the site which should be laid out so as not to encourage rat running.

(b)There should be a good bus service providing links to the town centres and stations and other bus services. Any bus services should run through the site providing a service to existing areas as well. An exit from the development on to the southern bypass roundabout could facilitate better connections to Coulsdon South Station

(c)There should be good, safe, quick pedestrian walking routes around the development and to and from the town centre and stations. The existing footpaths across the site from Brighton Road to Portnals Road must be maintained and improved.

 

3.      Quality Housing: The Master Plan indicates the there is a need for a range of housing from family sizes to small houses with gardens and apartments. These should be of quality design with adequate room sizes to cater for existing furniture. Building materials should reflect existing local designs (we do not want revolutionary designs which become slums in 10 years).  Houses and apartments must be able to cope with the Council’s recycling programme and have adequate storage for waste and recycling bins. A limit of 4 stories should be put on housing (in line with the previous maximum ward height).

 

4.       Green Belt Management: a) The Cane Hill site is situated within green belt and we believe this needs to be managed to provide new and improved opportunities for public recreation such as walking, cycling and horse riding, while protecting the existing fauna and flora.        (b) The existing farm should be maintained on the site even if relocated.

(c)New footpaths, bridle and cycle routes should be provided to complement the existing ones.

(d) As much of the existing tree-scape as possible should be kept.

(e) A green space should be maintained at the rear of the two schools, Smitham and St Aidan’s, to maintain their green outlook.

(f) The existing Surrey Iron railway embankment, a scheduled ancient monument, should be made a feature that can be appreciated by the public

 

5.       The Remaining buildings:  We are very keen to keep the existing buildings and incorporate them into any new development. The Tower for over 150 years has been a dominant land mark that can be seen from all the surrounding area and this should remain. The Chapel is also very attractive and its features should be kept in any development. The admin building was very attractive prior to its collapse after the fire. If it is not possible to entirely reconstruct it then its general design and clock tower should be incorporated into any new building.  We would like the existing building incorporated into a commercial development which might include a hotel, restaurant or conference complex, small commercial workshops.

 

6.       Lion Green Car park: (a) We support this and the surrounding area being part of the planning process for the Cane Hill site.

(b) We support the development of a large Supermarket to make Coulsdon more viable for shoppers. However, the Stakeholder group has concerns whether Lion Green Car Park is a suitable site for a large supermarket. which if developed wrongly, rather than enhance the town it could have the opposite effect by drawing people away from the town centre by promoting home-supermarket-home only journeys.

(c) The Stakeholder support development of community facilities on this site

(d) We are also concerned over the increase in traffic and pollution this would have on Lion Green Road and the A237. 

(e) The car park is an important part of Coulsdon providing short and long term parking for the town centre and local stations and adequate car parking must be an important part of Coulsdon’s future.

(f) It is important that the local scout troops which meet in Richmond Hall continue to have adequate meeting facilities.

 

Charles King Stakeholder group                                           9th October 2011


LONDON BOROUGH OF CROYDON PLANNING PAGES

If you wish to investigate current or decided Planning Application you can do so on The London Borough of Croydon's website - just follow this link and fill in the details - address of, if you know it the Planning Application Number  omitting the year and the /P and only entering the five figure unique number. http://planning.croydon.gov.uk/DCWebPages/acolnetcgi.gov?ACTION=UNWRAP&RIPNAME=Root.pgesearch.

You can also obtain Planning Applications forms via this link from LBC http://www.croydon.gov.uk/planningandregeneration/1app/1appforms or you can submit through The Planning Portal  which enables you to submit Planning Applications electronically.

The Portal also contains other useful planning information such as Development Plans and Proposals Maps for over 50 planning authority areas across the UK, including the London Borough of Croydon (these are statutory documents prepared by local planning authorities that set out the guidelines for local development); planning contacts in your local area, information on how the planning system works, relevant planning regulations and guidance notes; information on how to determine if planning permission is required, how you go about obtaining it and appeal procedures and the latest planning news and information on job vacancies in planning. http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/ .

The Interactive House and Interactive Terraced House are also there but you can access directly if you follow the links below.

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INTERACTIVE HOUSE

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The Planning Portal have an Interactive House and an Interactive Terraced House on their website which can help guide you and give advice on what requires approval from the Local Authority and what is permitted development. You just need to point your pointer on screen to any part of the house and a short Guidance Note will appear from which you can follow the links to more detailed advice should you wish.:-

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/hhg/houseguide.html 

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/thg/terraceguide.html


SOUTH LONDON WASTE PLAN

 

An inspectors report has now been published and is being considered by the four London Boroughs of Croydon, Kingston, Merton and Sutton.  The boroughs will have to continue to reduce the amount of waste that goes into landfill to less than 50% by 2020 and the four boroughs will be expected to deal with 85% of waste within their boundaries.

 

To assist this, a number of site in each of the boroughs have been identified as sites where a waste plant can be built.  The majority of them are in the Purely Way / Factory Lane area of Croydon and the Beddington lane area of Sutton.  At present most food waste goes to an anaerobic digestion plant in Beddington where it is converted into compost. If you would like to find out more about the plan or the inspectors report, go to www.croydon.gov.uk/wasteplan

 


CANE HILL

Specialist demolition contractors are still demolishing the Old Cane Hill Hospital buildings, which includes asbestos materials. They are re-cycling the bricks and roof tiles – Lot of demolition but still no firm idea or application although they have done much consultation with residents. They have assured Charlie that they do not intend to demolish the Water Tower unless it is found to be dangerous. They say they are keen to put application in, but no decision as to which option. – Hopefully The Homes and Communities Agency (HCA) who have taken over English Partnership should be big enough to still build during a recession.  They are however now selling the site which is part of the Draft Coulsdon Masterplan approved by the Council.  The link to the Masterplan is  on hold until the Cane Hill site is sold. and they will then go out to consultation with the wider public. Once consultation starts we will put the link to the site here.  Here is link to The Draft Coulsdon Masterplan  http://www.croydon.gov.uk/democracy/dande/minutes/cabinet/2011/11july11a

on 1st August 2011 the HCA placed a  tender document on the Official European Tender site for developers to make bids.  This inlcudes the Lion Green Road Car Park http://www.homesandcommunities.co.uk/ourwork/cane-hill. Below is a synopsis of the site

Use type Coulsdon and Cane Hill area Cane Hill site
Residential 650 – 750 units 550 – 700 units
Retail 8,000 – 9,000 sq m  
Of which supermarket 6,000 – 7,000 sq m  
Industrial 2,000 – 2,500 sq m  
Office/innovation 5,000 – 6,000 sq m    4,000 – 5,000 sq m
Leisure/other

The negotiations which have been taking place between Aldi and Croydon Council on a possible land swop seem to have come to nothing.

For further information visit http://canehill.org.uk/home/index.html

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HADLEIGH - OLD GRIMES SITE

 

ECRA wrote objecting to the Planning Application Planning 07/01546/P  which was for 'Demolition of existing buildings; erection of 1 two storey, 2 three/four storey and 1 three storey buildings to provide a total of 34 two bedroom, 15 one bedroom and 6 three bedroom flats; closure of vehicular access onto Marlpit Lane and alterations to vehicular access onto Reddown Road; provision of associated parking spaces,cycle parking and dustbin enclosures' and was refused at The Development Control Committee Meeting of 5th July 2007. However they took this to Appeal to the Planning Inspector. Again ECRA wrote to the Planning Inspector objecting to the Application, However permission was granted through the Planning Inspectorate on 23rd January 2008. The developers are behind with some issues and no further action has been taken.  The site still h as not been developed 4 years later.  The Planning application has been renewed but the owner have yet to reach agreement with a developer on starting the building.

Charlie asked if there is anything which can be done to clear up the site as it  is a real eyesore especially since Network Rail have chopped down the trees along the embankment. The owners have tried to tidy the site since the arson attacks earlier in the year.  Enforcement Officer of the Council are in contact with the owners.

It looks like the site has been sold and will soon be progressing to development.  We hope to meet with the new owners of the site and will keep you updated


MARLPIT LANE MEMORIAL PARK

 

There are planned improvements to the Memorial Ground.

  • Extedning the footpath to make a circular route around the grass
  • Installing some general fitness equipment in front of the pavilion
  • Renovating the toilets.
  • A company called Chave D'Ouro are taking over as proprietors of the cafe.  They are sharing the cost of renovating the building with the Councl, including the provision of a new roof and improvements to the forecourt so that people can sit outside on sunny days and will also be responsible for the maintenance of the toilets and selling tickets for the tennis courts and pitch and putt course.  Work should be finished by March 2012.


OPTIMA COURT, BRIGHTON ROAD

 

The developer submitted plans for a third block of flat on the site between the A23 and the Railway. Whilst ECRA did not object to this development we did say that we found the proposed building itself to be very squat and looked like a temporary school building but asking both the Council and Lodgecrest  if they could come to some arrangement to widen the public footpath on the A23 as the pavement there is very narrow and dangerous for pedestrians.  The application has turned down by the Council and Lodgecrest have put in an Appeal to the Planning Inspector. 


VOLKSWAGON APPLICATION / OTHER TOWN CENTRE PLANS

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Volkswagon planning application has been approved  for  Unit 1a, Gateway Business Park, Pipers Road, Coulsdon,  Planning Application  11/02385/P  - planning page and documents http://planning.croydon.gov.uk/DCWebPages/AcolNetCGI.gov?ACTION=UNWRAP&RIPNAME=Root.PgeDocs&TheSystemkey=129610   for Demolition of existing buildings; erection of part single/three storey building for use as a car showroom with ancillary offices, storage, workshop and MOT bay; formation of vehicular access and provision of associated parking which ECRA are supplorting as this will bring business to the town and will replace derelict building.s

Plans are expected in the near future for the rear of Doble Motors and the Pinewood sites.

 


SAINSBURYS / PINEWOOD SITE

 

Sainsbury obtained Planning Permission to build a supermarket on 6th December 2007 under Planning Application 07/03434/P  on the old Pinewood site  but nothing is progressed on this development.. 

There are discussions between the Council and developer Oakwood Group on plans to turn the former Pinewood Motors site, in Brighton Road, Coulsdon, into a multi-storey block of flats and "several" houses facing Station Approach. Go to this link to learn more  - http://www.thisiscroydontoday.co.uk/Coulsdon-supermarket-plans-dropped-new-flats/story-13556014-detail/story.html .  We await developments.


COULSDON MANOR HOTEL

 

Oxford Hotels are applying for planning permision to add 26 extra bedrooms, new leisure facilities and a new bar.
As the site is on Green Belt Land they will have to return an equivalent area of land to green belt. They intend to do this by pulling down the squash courts (not avery attractice building) and turning this are to a copse and open space. Oxford Hotels have agreed to work with the local residents' associations and the golf members.
A public exhibition of the proposals was held on Thursday 21 April 2011 at the hotel. There will also be a public meeting for interested persons at 8.00pm on the same evening, We await submission of a planning application


LION GREEN ROAD CAR PARK

 

This site forms part of the Coulsdon Masterplan along with Cane Hill Site.  - see Cane Hill for further information


RED LION SITE - ALDI

 

Aldi Supermarket are in discussion with The London Borough of Croydon to develop this empty side but there is no additional new information. The last planning applications have been turned down by LBC .There is ongoing discussion with Planning Officers but no application for building. An appliction for use as a temporary car park was approved by the Council. and is run by StarParks through a lease from Aldi.  Be careful if you use this car park which is currently charged at £1 per hour paid for by mobile phone and credit card.  If you do not pay or overstay by a minute or more you are likely to be fined in excess of £70 by StarParks.   We await further developments for development of the site which is an eyesore in the centre of the town.


   

4 and 4(b) REDDOWN ROAD

This application has been approved on Appeal to the Planning Inspector  for  the 'Demolition of the existing buildings; erection of a part three and part four storey building comprising 12 two bedroom flats and a block of 5 garages; provision of associated parking '  which ECRA supported , as it did for the previous failed applications for this site because  we believe that the existing two properties are life expired and demolition and construction of the new high quality flats for purchase is a good use of the site. and that Coulsdon is lacking in one and two bedroom quality flats that are suitable for both young professional people and/or older couples who want to down size, but remain in the area as long as this does not result in over development and out of character buildings.