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CONSULTATION ON THE PROPOSED GTR/SOUTHERN 2018 TIMETABLE

 

From September to 6th December 2016 GTR are consulting on their proposed timetable for 2018 when the work on rebuilding London Bridge is complete and the full Thameslink service will be introduced. East Surrey Transport Committee which represents local rail users criticized and continued to make representation about the 2015 timetable and some of the early proposals for 2018 in their view the service provided for Coulsdon is worse than that previously provided in 2014.

 

The main criticisms of the 2015 timetable at Coulsdon South were : The loss of local services to Reigate and Tonbridge; No additional peak hour services; the lack of off-peak service to Victoria and extended journey times to central London. At Coulsdon Town it was the reduction in the number of off-peak trains. The main criticism for 2018 timetable was that all trains serving both Coulsdon Stations would come from north of Blackfriars and any disruption north of Blackfriars would mean that the service to Coulsdon stations would be disrupted for several hours, while most other stations on the network would have an alternative service starting from central London.

 

We are pleased that GTR have addressed these issues in their latest proposals and there is an improvement to services to the Coulsdon area. At Coulsdon South there is an additional peak hour train, local services to Reigate and Tonbridge are restored and an all-day off-peak service to Victoria. There is a further option to improve evening and Sunday services to Victoria. The Tattenham Corner and Caterham lines will now remain Southern Metro services. As a result at Coulsdon Town the off-peak service will be restored to 4 trains per hour along with a faster evening and Sunday service.

 

These are the main proposal that GTR are asking you comment on :

Coulsdon South  Trains per hour (tph)

Peaks hours

Mon to Sat daytimes

Evenings

Sundays

6tph

4tph

3 tph

3tph

4 to London Bridge

2 will continue to Bedford and 2 to Peterborough

2 to London Bridge starting from Horsham and continuing to Peterborough

2 to London Bridge starting from Horsham and continuing to Peterborough

2 to London Bridge starting from Horsham and continuing to Peterborough

2 to Victoria

2 to Victoria Starting

from

Reigate or Tonbridge

1or 2 to Victoria  starting from Reigate or Tonbridge

1 or 2 to Victoria  starting from Reigate or Tonbridge

 

Coulsdon Town Trains per hour (tph)

Peaks hours

Mon to Sat daytimes

Evenings

Sundays

4tph +

4tph

2 tph

2tph

2 to London Bridge

2 to Victoria

+ some West London line services

 

2 to London Bridge semi-fast

2 to Victoria all stations via Norwood Junction and Crystal Palace starting at Coulsdon Town

2 to London Bridge semi-fast

2 to London Bridge semi-fast

All joining with a Caterham portion at Purley

All London Bridge trains joining with a Caterham portion at Purley

All London Bridge trains joining with a Caterham portion at Purley

All London Bridge trains joining with a Caterham portion at Purley

 

East Surrey Transport Committee is asking you to support these proposed changes and in particular are asking you to support the following changes :

 

Tattenham Corner line & Coulsdon Town

1.      Keeping The Caterham and Tattenham Corner lines as part of Southern Metro services and to use only 5 coach trains. This will prevent these lines suffering major disruption when there are problems north of London Bridge. Question   19 Answer  : Yes

2.      Diverting the existing Victoria to Sutton via Crystal Palace and West Croydon off-peak service to Coulsdon Town. This will reinstate 4tph off-peak at Coulsdon Town and Reedham. It will also provide an all stations Victoria service. Question 58 Answer   : Yes

 

Also see West London Line 7 below

 

Coulsdon South

 

3.      Increase the peak hour service from 5tph to 6 tph (4 London Bridge & 2 Victoria) with 4 tph in the off-peak 2tph to Clapham Junction and Victoria & 2tph to London Bridge, Blackfriars, St Pancras, Finsbury Park and Peterborough. Also to reintroduce direct Reigate and Tonbridge services.  Questions 39 & 40 Answer : Yes

4.      An option to improve the evening and Sunday service from Victoria from 1tph to 2tph improving the service at Coulsdon South from 3tph to 4tph. Question 47  Answer  : Support first options with trains to Reigate and Tonbridge (this makes the off-peak and Sunday service consistent all week).

5.       

West London Line

 

6.      The consultation asks if peak West London line trains should start or terminate at Selhurst, Purely or Coulsdon Town (as the 07.30 Coulsdon Town to Watford does now). We are asking you to support starting at Coulsdon Town Without the peak service at Coulsdon Town and Reedham the service would be reduced to 4tph. Question  63 Answer  Coulsdon Town

7.      Other Comments on West London Line? We are asking for the present hourly off-peak service from East Croydon to Watford via Shepherd’s Bush to be increase to 2tph. Question 64 Answer  : Increase the service to Watford to 2tph.

 

Are there any down side ?

·         There are very few but a couple Coulsdon South would lose its Sunday Bognor service, but gain an extra train per hour.

·         Tattenham Corner trains would be slightly slower as they will join and divide all day with Caterham trains at Purley, but the evening and Sunday services with be consistent and faster.

·         There will be fewer stops at Norwood Junction.

 

You respond by emailing GTR at gtr.timetableconsultation@gtrailway.com or by post  to GTR 2018 timetable Consultation, Eastside Offices, King’s Cross station, London N1C 4AP or by filling in the questionnaire response form on the GTR web site using the guide above  www.southernrailway.com/your-journey/timetable-consultation

 

 

If you require more information please email

 

Charles King   Chair :  East Surrey Transport Committee   eastsurrey.tc@talktalk.net


CHARING CROSS TRAINS RETURN TO LONDON BRIDGE

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From Monday 29th August 2016

 Part of the new Concourse underneath London Bridge opens with a new Entrance from St Thomas Street.

Southeastern Charing Cross Trains will now call again at London Bridge for Waterloo East and Charing Cross. Except in the reverse peak flow where there will be no trains from Charing Cross and Waterloo East to London Bridge  between 08.00 and 09.15 and in the evening there will be no trains from London Bridge to Waterloo East between wand  16.30 and 18.00. Cannon Street services will no longer call at London Bridge until January 2018.


TRANSPORT NEWS

 

Poor Performance: The Service at local stations has been absolutely appalling in the weeks leading up to Christmas and the weeks after services resumed, this was taken up by East Surrey Transport Committee and GLA member Steve O’Connell with David Scorey and Alex Foulds the two Southern Service Directors. While Chris Philp MP, along with a number of other MPS raised these problems in Parliament with the Rail Minister Claire Perry MP.

 

Major Changes at LONDON BRIDGE: From December 2012 until December 2018 London Bridge Station is being rebuilt 3 platforms at a time from west to east. This will mean that from January 2015 Southeastern Trains to Waterloo East and Charing Cross will no longer stop at London Bridge for up 18 months. While other services will be subject to time changes, diversions and will not be able to call at London Bridge at all Southern and a South Eastern for up to 6 months and FCC Thameslink for 3 years. To keep a track of progress and changes to train time please consult.  www.Thameslinkprogramme.co.uk

New Timetable : The worse service provided by the new timetable at many local stations but at Coulsdon South and Norwood Junction was also raised at the meeting with Steve O’Connell, Southern took the view that things may be worse in the Croydon area but they were better elsewhere. Steve O’Connell has asked to meet with Southern again in February.

 

If you are not happy with the change to the services at Coulsdon South in particular Steve O’Connell is urging you to write/email to David Scorey with a copy to him before February.

 

Coulsdon South:  trains will be 16 & 46 past the hour to East Croydon and London Bridge. At 26 & 59 past the hour to East Croydon, Blackfriars and Bedford. The 09.25 to Victoria and the 09.28 to London Bridge will still run but many vary by a minute or so in the final timetable.  In the down direction, Horsham trains will be earlier at 25 & 55 past the hour and Gatwick Airport / Three Bridges will be 14 & 44 minutes past the hour.

 

Coulsdon Town:  Trains will be at 01 & 37 minutes past the hour to East Croydon and London Bridge and at 21 & 51 minutes past the hour to Tattenham Corner.

 

Trains will leave London Bridge: at 20 & 50 for Coulsdon Town and 27 & 57 for Coulsdon South (spacing even worse than we thought). At present there are no changes to rush hour services.

 

Fares from January Oyster Pay as you Go cards can be used to Redhill and Gatwick Airport. This is an add on fare and sometimes the paper ticket especially for groups of three or more will still be cheaper. Accompanied children under the age of 11 can now also travel free on National Rail services in the London Zones.

 

 

Old Lodge Lane Bridge : Unfortunately due to bad weather and high winds the bridge replacement at Old Lodge lane was unable to be carried out and will have to be rescheduled/

 

Buses

 

No change to local buses in the Coulsdon and Purley areas.  New Countdown signs have been provide at Coulsdon South Station in the Brighton Road for route 405 towards Redhill in Marlpit Lane for 60 & 404 to Old Coulsdon.

 

From 2012, all London Bus stops are now regarded as request stops and, if you want a bus to stop at a stop, you must indicate to the driver by waving your hand and you must ring the bell if you want to get off at the next stop. During the course of the year, the red request bus stop signs will disappear and all bus stops will become white bus stops and request stops.

TfL have now launched and APP that you can download to find out the time of buses at a stop near where you are using GPS technoligy. Also you can “text a stop for the next bus” All stops should now have a plaque that enables you to text 87287 with the stop plate number and within a minute they will text you back with the times of the next buses. This cost 12p to receive, but some networks also charge to send to 87287 (you do not have to be at the stop if you know your stop number you can text before you leave home). In addition you can also check your local route and stop from the internet log on to http://countdown.tfl.gov.uk/#/and type in the stop number or the route number then select the direction and stop name from the map.

 

Fares In London: From January 2016 the daily all zone Travelcard will rise to £17.20  in the peak and remains at £12.10 in the off-peak. However, the Oyster cap has become a daily cap at £11.80 regardless of what time you travel. For Oyster users who travel travel twice or more in a week after 9.30 a.m. or 8 times or more in a month TfL will reimbuse their Oyster Card at the end of each month and credit it with the difference between £11.80 and £8.90 for any of those trips that started after 9.30 a.m.  The Oyster bus fare will rise to £1.50 and the daily cap will still apply at £4.50.

There is also now a new  One- Day bus and tram pass costing £5.00 which can be bought from local stations and newsagents.

Steam Trains: Orient Express

 

6th February – Victoria to Guildford.  Return to Victoria via Redhill – Loco Clan Line, Merchant Navy Class – Coulsdon South Approximately 15.15 p.m

 

12th March - Victoria to Guildford.  Return to Victoria via Redhill – Loco Clan Line, Merchant Navy Class – Coulsdon South Approximately 15.15 p.m

 

Note: These trains times and routes can be altered or cancelled at short notice, even on the day.  Trains may also run up to 15 minutes early or late.  A useful web side to check and for other steam trains – www.uksteam.info/tourists/trs.htm

 

January 2016

 

 

 

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BUSES - TRAINS - OTHER TRANSPORT

Here you will find details of bus routes; Rail routes, times of trains and details of the type of tickets available as well as Other Transport Issues such as Steam and Special Trains; Car Rallies and much more. A useful link which gives you traffic reports is http://www.frixo.com/

Route 463 Coulsdon to Pollards Hill via the Mount and Wallington - New Evening timetable from June 2013

From 31st August the 434 will run a Sunday service

 

 

 

BUSES, TRAINS AND OTHER TRANSPORT

 

Coulsdon has three stations : Coulsdon South on the Redhill corridor of the Brighton Mainline. Coulsdon Town (formerly Smitham)  (fully accessible and has lifts to both platforms) and

Woodmansterne both on the Tattenham Corner branch of South London Metro services. All three stations are in Zone 6 of the London Travelcard Scheme and are operated by Southern Railway

www.southernrailway.com

COULSDON TOWN (formerly Smitham  Railway Station)

The Station new booking office was completed at the beginning of March 2010.  It has a new toilet and new cycle rack and has extended opening hours.

Useful contacts for travellers:

National Rail Enquiries - 08457 484950 - www.nationalrail.co.uk

London Buses Information  - 020 7222 1234 - www.tfl.gov.uk/buses

Trasnport for London : http://journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk/user/XSLT_TRIP_REQUEST2?language=en


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COULSDON SOUTH STATION CAR PARK

This has been a great success in that all 41 new places have been occupied by 8.30am since the September. However, East Surrey Transport Committee raised the concerns about the price of £6.00 all day. As a result from Monday 6th January Southern have introduced a reduced price  to £5.20 and  £3.00 after 4.00  (16.00 hours) Monday to Friday for people going to London in the evenings. Saturdays to be £2.00 and Sunday and Bank Holidays £1.00 both all day


COULSDON AREA BUSES

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Coulsdon is in the Greater London Area and local bus services in Coulsdon and the surrounding area are operated by London Buses part of Transport for London (TfL). The Mayor for London also has responsibility for people travelling to and from London and TfL also operates cross boundary services into Surrey such as routes 166 & 405. These are operated as though they are London Buses and London fares apply including Travelcard and Bus Pass which are valid for the whole route as far as Redhill and Epsom.

The Coulsdon area : Has eight London bus routes these are made up of four trunk routes 60, 166, 405 and 466 all serving Croydon. Three local routes 404, 434 and 463 and one night route N68 which operates a 24-hour service in conjunction with route 60.

 

Route 60 : Old Coulsdon, Coulsdon, Purley, Brighton Road, Croydon, Mayday Hospital, Thornton Heath, Pollards Hill and Streatham Common. Operates from 04.45am until 1.00am

 

Route 166 : Epsom (daytime) Banstead, Woodmansterne, Chipstead Valley, Coulsdon, Purley, Brighton Road, and Croydon. Operates from 06.30am to Midnight

 

Route 405 : Redhill, Hooley, Coulsdon, Purley, Pampisford Road, and Croydon. Operates from 06.30am to 11.30pm

 

Route 466 : Caterham on the Hill, Old Coulsdon, Stoats Nest, Purley, Brighton Road, Croydon, Shirley Park, Addington Village. Operates from 06.00am to 1.00am

 

Route 404 : Caterham on the Hill, Caterham Drive,  Old Coulsdon, Rutherwick Rise and Coulsdon. Operates from 07.00am to 7.00pm Monday to Saturday .

 

Route 434 : Rickman Hill, Coulsdon, Woodcote Valley Road, Purley, Kenley, and Whyteleafe South Station. Operates from 7.00am to 8.00pm 434 now runs on Monday to Sundays and has anew timetable www.londonbusroutes.net/routes.htm 

 

Route 463 : Coulsdon South Station, Coulsdon, Clock House (the Mount), Wallington, Beddington Lane, Pollards Hill and Mitcham Eastfields. Operates from 06.30am to 12 Midnight.

 

Route N68 : Old Coulsdon, Coulsdon, East Croydon Station, Upper Norwood, Elephant and Castle, Waterloo, Holborn and Tottenham Court Road. Operates from 11.30pm to 04.30am

 

More information tel. 020 7222 1234    www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl 

 

Timetables : London Buses provide information on all stops. They do not provide individual Timetables they only provide the time of the first and last bus and service pattern. However, if you would like an individual timetable for a particular route these can be down loaded from the following web site :

 

 www.londonbusroutes.net/routes.htm

 

 

Other Services : Croydon
 

Croydon Accessible Transport (CATS)

Provides information and advice on accessible transport in Croydon and other London Boroughs. They also provides low cost accessible minibuses for use by community groups, organisations and individuals in the London Borough of Croydon.

Telephone: 020 8665 0861 (enquiries)
Telephone: 020 8683 1800 (bookings)
Fax: 020 8665 1972
Email:
admin@croydoncat.org.uk

www.transportforall.org.uk/community/serviceusers/croydon

Other Services :  Surrey County Council

 

Route 866 : one journey each way Coulsdon to Banstead Beacon School operated by Surrey County Council. Tel 0870 608 2608  www.traveline.org.uk

 

The Netherne Community Bus is now up and running between Netherne and Coulsdon South station Monday to Friday and can now be used by non-Netherne residents. The fare is £1.50 (Concessionary passes are not valid). Bus leaves Netherne Drive at 7:10 am; 7:50; 8:25 and 9:10am (return to Netherne about 7 mins later). It leaves Coulsdon South at 5:30pm; 6:05pm and 7.00pm (buses start from Netherne about 10 mins earlier) a later bus may be added in the near future.

 

National Express

 

Service 025 runs from Victoria to Gatwick Airport and Brighton stopping on request at both Coulsdon South Station and Hooley. You can use these services by either booking in advance or paying the driver. You may also use these services as part of a longer distance National Express journey changing coaches at Victoria or Gatwick Airport. There is one additional journey each way on route 027 between Victoria and Chichester which also calls at Coulsdon South and Hooley. tel 08457 740740 www.nationalexpress.com

 

Old Coulsdon to Streatham by 60 Bus in 8 and a half minutes

 

Some of you may remember that the BCC often showed a clip “London to Brighton in 4 minutes”

 

To bring this up to date somebody has kindly put on U tube 

 

“Old Coulsdon to Streatham in 8½ half  www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ1gJWqP22E

 

 

London Bus Fares; in the outer zones can be paid to the driver, but in the inner zone 1 a ticket must be purchased in advance. London Buses operates a flat fare system and the cost of a ticket is £2.45 per journey regardless of whether you travel one stop or the whole route including cross the boundary as far as Epsom and Redhill.

 

You can reduce this by either purchasing an Oystercard smartcard which you prepay in advance, this cost £5.00 deposit plus the amount you load on it. The cost of each bus journey is then reduced to £1.45 per journey if you make more than 4 journeys in a day.  Oyster caps itself at the Buss Pass or Travelcard price for any subsequent journeys on bus or rail journey. 

 

Freedom Pass : Coulsdon Residents on reaching the national retirement age or with a permanent disability who live in the London Boroughs of Croydon or Sutton can obtain a Freedom pass provided by the London Councils. The application form can be obtained from the local Post Office. Freedom Pass allows travel on the Buses, Trams and Docklands Light Rail and some Overground Rail Services 24 hours a day It also allows use of the Nation Rail network in London zones 1-6. From 09.30 (at Coulsdon Town and Woodmansterne and from 09.28 at Coulsdon South) Monday to Friday and all day Saturday and Sunday.

 

Nationwide : In addition this pass can be used on any local service bus throughout England subject to local conditions normally after 9.00 or 9.30 am. Freedom Pass cannot be used in Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland.

 

New 60+ Concessionary Travel Scheme: The Mayor Boris Johnson has introduced a new 60+ Concessionary Travel Scheme using a variation of the Oystercard from 1st November 2012 for those people over 60 years of age who no longer qualify for a Freedom Pass. The pass will have the same validity as a Freedom Pass except that it will not be valid on buses outside London except for London routes such as 166 and 405. This pass can be obtained from the TfL website.  www.tfl.gov.uk/ There is an administrative charge of £10 and you will need to either fill in the form online and supply a digital photograph or print the form off and provide a passport photograph and take to a Post Office

 

 

 

For information on buses and other travel journeys outside London

 

You can contact the Traveline by phone 0871 200 22 33

 or on the web www.traveline.org.uk

 

 

TICKETS

As all three station are both part of the National Rail network and are also in London, there are two different ticket regimes in place.

National Rail : You can buy a single or return ticket to or from any other national rail station you can also buy a ticket to any London underground stations. However, you cannot buy a

cheap day return to any rail or underground station in London However, a Travelcard is often better value to a station that is in the London zones (See below).

TfL Oystercard: This is an electronic smartcard and comes in two forms

1. The Season Ticket Version: This requires a photocard and is used in exactly the same way as a paper season ticket.

2. Pay as You Go Chargecard: This works in the same way as a prepay mobile phone.You buy an Oystercard which requires a £5.00 deposit and load the card with what payment you think

you will need. This can be done at newsagents such as Pandora in Coulsdon, Underground stations and some mainline stations. When the card is getting low you top it up. This can be done

at newsagents in Coulsdon, local stations in Coulsdon, Underground stations or online from TfL at www.tfl.gov.uk/oyster. Useful ontacts for the traveller - www.oyster-rail.org.uk

How Does the Oystercard Work?  The Oyster will automatically deduct the far from your card when you pit it on the yellow touch pad on the ticket barrier, station entrance / exit, tram stop or

bus ticket machine.  However, on railway journeys it automatically deducts the maximum fare until you 'touch out' then it reverts to the correct fare.  So it is always important to

 'touch in and touch out'

Maximum Fare: The Oystercard will also cap the cost in any one day at the cost os a one day Bus Pass if you have only used buses and trams. If you have used a rail service at either a peak

 or off-peak Travelcard price for the zones you have travelled in when you hae used the Nataional Rail, Docklands Light Rail, the Overground or the Underground during the course of the day.

 

Difference between Paper Tickets and Oyster train tickets purchases at local stations.

 

The main difference are that Oyster fares are often a few pence cheaper.  However, it has two Monday to Friday peaks in the morning from 6.30am to 9.30am and in the evening from

 16.00 to 19.00. If you travel between these times you will be charged the peak fare and the cap will be the Peak Travelcard peak.  If you travel outside these times the cap will be the

Off-peak Travelcard price.

 

Note:These times apply to when you touch in and NOT the train time.

 

Passengers from the Coulsdon Area: Have an easement on the 9.30am cheap day rule on the 9.23am and the 9.28 am from Coulsdon South to East Croydon and London.  If you wish

to catch these trains or travel after 9.30am and back between 16.30 pm and 19.00 pm and to make more than these 2 journeys, it will well be better to buy an off-peak paper Travelcard

as these is no evening peak restriction.

 

Senior Railcard and Oyster: If you have a Senior Railcard you can have this programmed on to your Oystercard at an underground station.  This may be particularly useful if you live outside

 the GLA boundary and do not have a Freedom Pass.

 

National Rail Tickets: There are three types of national rail tickets:

 

 

1.     1. Advance : These are now only sold as single tickets and must be bought in advance and depending on how far in advance you purchase the ticket the greater the discount you will receive.

Advance tickets can only be used on the train specified, although you may use any connecting service if it is not specified. As well as the ordinary advance ticket a number of train companies

also have promotional advance ticket specific to their company only. This will require you to buy a separate ticket for any connecting services.

 

1.      2. Off-Peak :   These come in two forms: for the London area and short journeys there are only day singles or returns. For longer distance such as Manchester there are day singles or monthly

returns (This used to called a Saver ticket), this ticket will also include ( free of charge) a tube journey between any two London mainline terminals. As general rule these tickets can only be used

after 9.30 am Monday to Friday or at any time Saturday, Sunday and Bank Holidays. 

 

      3. However, there are some exceptions.

 

  • all off-peak tickets can also be used from Coulsdon South on the 9.23am train. From Euston after 9.15am and there is no restriction at all from Marylebone. Some train
  • companies also impose a restriction on off-peak tickets leaving London after 3.30pm until 7.00pm, but not Southern (please check each company).
  • Also if you have a long distance off-peak ticket such as Coulsdon South to Manchester this can be used on all trains from Coulsdon from the 5.30 am onwards so that
  • you can get to Euston or Reading via Redhill in time to catch the train there at the  earliest time after the restriction eg. 09.15am at Euston or 9.30am a Reading. 
  •  Also you can break your journey on the return;  for example on a return journey from Manchester you could get off at Birmingham and resume your journey the same day
  • or any other day during the month validity of the ticket
  •  There is also a Super Off-peak ticket available on some routes, this cheaper but has more restricted use than ordinary off-peak tickets.

 

2.     4. Anytime Ticket : Singles or Returns; this is the most expensive ticket and is valid on any train at any time of day. You may break your journey in either direction, but you must complete

 the outward journey on the first day unless it is impossible, then you must complete the journey the following day leaving the station where you broke your journey the previous night before

12.noon on day two. 

 

      5. Plus Bus : Over 250 towns and cities in Britain have added their bus services to train tickets. For example on a day trip to Brighton by asking for a Plusbus day return you can add the

use of all the local buses for an extra £2.00 - £3.50. For more information www.plusbus.info

 

More info from National Rail : www.nationalrail.co.uk/simplefares

 

Travelcard is the London area ticket that can be used on Trains, Buses, Trams Docklands Light Rail (DLR) and the Underground in London zones 1 to 6 (a discount is also available on some

River Thames boats)

 

Season Tickets: Can be purchased for two zones or any combination of consecutive zones.

 

One day Peak and Off-Peak Travelcards can be purchased for combinations of zones. From the Coulsdon South  there is now only one day ticket available.

  • All zones Travelcard (1-6)
  • One Day Travelcards are valid on night services until 04.30 a.m. the next morning.
  • One Day Travelcards cost £16.40 peak for use before 9.30 am Monday to Friday, Off-Peak Travelcards cost £8.90 and can bu used after 9.30 am Monday to Friday (but can be used on
  • the 9.23 am and 9.28 a, at Coulsdon South) all day Saturdays, Sundays, and Public Holidays.
  • However, if you travel in the peak the Oyster Card will now cap at £15.80 and if you travel after 09.30 a.n. it will cap at £8.50.  This is designed to encourage more people to use the
  • Oyster Card

 

 Child Fares :  
 Children under 5:  Travel free on bus, tram, DLR and train
 Children under 11:  Travel free on bus and underground but not on trains - must have a valid Oyster Zip Card (available from www.tfl.gov.uk)
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TRAVELLING BY EUROSTAR

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Eurostar connecting trains and tickets.

 

If you are using Eurostar from St Pancras International you can purchase a Euro standard ticket from Coulsdon South, Coulsdon Town or any other station to London

International. This has the advantage that it is marked CIV (Convention Internationale pour le transport des Voyageurs).

 

This has the added advantage that if your connecting train is delayed that Eurostar will have to put you an alternative train at no extra cost. This is particularly

 useful if you have a reduced price advance ticket. Without the CIV ticket Eurostar has no obligation to honour your ticket if it is for a specified train and you have missed it.

  

The ticket has two version with the underground £9.0 single and £18.0 return without the underground via Thameslink £6.60 and £13.20 return (it is the same price as ordinary

tickets to London). The return portion is also valid for two months so you will not have to queue up at the booking office on your return. Normal discounts for senior and other

cards apply if travelling after 9.30 weekdays or at the weekends.

 

You will need proof of your Eurostar journey to purchase this ticket


THE LONDON FREEDOM PASS

 

This Pass is supplied by the London Councils (all the London Boroughs and City of London) to residents of London.

There are two types of Freedom Pass.

1.       The Disabled Pass is available to anybody with a qualifying disability (see website for full list) who lives in a London Borough and is part of the National

disability scheme.

 

2.       The Pensioners Freedom Pass is available to residents of a London Borough who have reached the state pension age (until 2010 the qualifying age was 60).

At present it is 61 but will rise to 62 in 2013 (see web site for details of eligibility).

 

Validity  London :

·         These passes can be used on all TfL services, Underground, Overground, Docklands Light Rail, Tram and all London buses including 405 to Redhill and

166 to Banstead and Epsom 24 hrs per day.

·         The pass can also be used on National Rail services in the London Zones from 9.30am until  4.30am Monday to Friday and all day Saturday and Sunday.

·         In addition you can obtain a discount on River services and the cable car.

Outside London :

·        The pass can be used on any scheduled buses in England, but not in Wales or Scotland. However, it is only valid at the times specified by the local authority

e.g. in Surrey it cannot be used before 9.30 and after 23.00 (if you have an appointment at East Surrey Hospital before 9.30am you can use the 405 to Redhill,

but will have to pay on the 100 or 400 bus)   

More information    http://londoncouncils.gov.uk/services/freedompass/default.htm

New 60+ Concessionary Travel Scheme:

The Mayor Boris Johnson has introduced a new 60+ Concessionary Travel Scheme using a variation of the Oystercard from 1st November 2012 for those people

 over 60 years of age who no longer qualify for a Freedom Pass. The pass will have the same validity as a Freedom Pass except that it will not be valid on buses

 outside London except for London routes such as 166 and 405. This pass can be obtained from the TfL website.  www.tfl.gov.uk/ There is an administrative c

harge of £10 and you will need to either fill in the form online and supply a digital photograph or print the form off and provide a passport photograph and take to a Post Office


BITE CARD DISCOUNT FOOD OUTLETS

 

If you are a regualr traveller then you can obtain a BITE card which gives you a 10% discount on food at a number of station outlets such as Pumpkin, Uppercrust,
 Burger King, Caffe RITAZZA and more
 
To obtain a card simply regiser on the following web site and you will be posted acard within 10days.
 
Simply register at www.bitecard.co.uk:- TODAY
http://www.bitecard.co.uk/Register


OTHER TRANSPORT ISSUES

   

TAXIS AND MINICABS

 

Taxis

As Coulsdon is in the GLA area Black cabs can be booked by phone or hailed in any street. - The nearest Black Cab Rank is at Purley Station

 

MiniCabs

Thee are also two MiniCab private hire companies in Coulsdon registered with Transport for London.  They operate a range of minicabs and minibuses.

District Cars at Coulsdon South Station -

020 8668 6686

Coulsdon Cars - next to Waitrose near Coulsdon Town Station-

020 8660 6666   -  020 8668 0666  - book@liberty247.co.uk

 


COACH TOURS AND DAY TRIPS FROM COULSDON

 

Two coach companies operate day trips, tours, city breaks and holidays and pick up from Coulsdon

 


Epsom Coaches

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Epsom Coaches – operate day trips, city breaks and holiday tours and pick up at Coulsdon.  For holiday and city breaks where they are not picking up in Coulsdon, they will arrange a pick up from your home by mini-bus or taxi, A brochure can be viewed or obtained on line – www.epsomcoaches.com – telephone 0372731705


Mayday Coaches

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Mayday Coaches – Day trips and tours picks up at Coulsdon South Station. A Brochure cam be viewed or obtained on line – www.maydaytravel.co.uk – telephone number 020 8680 5115

 

See download page for discounts for Residents Association members.


STEAM TRAINS AND SPECIAL TRAINS

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During the course of the year there are a number of special trains including Steam trains that pass through Coulsdon

 

Steam Trains in Coulsdon :  

The Orient Express, Victoria to Guildford return via Redhill : Coulsdon South at approximately 15.15 on

Saturday 17th December  2016.

Cathedrals Express Victoria to Salisbury & return via Redhill; Coulsdon South at approximately 09.20 & 21.40. 

Tuesday 29th November 2016 : 

Christmas Sussex Belle Victoria to Brighton and Hastings

Tuesday 6th December 2016  : Coulsdon South at approximately 11.00. The Bognor Belle Victoria to Bognor and  Littlehampton

Tuesday 13th December 2016. Coulsdon South at approximately 10.30. 

Note : These trains times and routes can be altered or cancelled at short notice even on the day. Trains may also run up to 15 mins early or late. A useful web site to check these and other steam trains is :  www.uksteam.info/tours/trs16.htm

 


SHOULD WOODPLACE LANE HAVE A 20MPH SPEED LIMIT ?

 

To all residents of Woodplace Lane, The Netherlands & Wilhemina Avenue  -

 

The amount of traffic using Woodplace Lane has risen over the last few years especially since the development of Netherne Village.  It is the view of many

f us that the traffic drives far too fast for the limited visibility in the narrow part of the lane and this is dangerous to residents especially when using their drives,

pedestrians and other road users including cyclist and horses that use Woodplace Lane to access the stables.

 

In 2010 a number of council were introducing 20mph zones in their areas as the government had relaxed the requirement to introduce other speed control

measures at the same time such as road humps and speed tables which cost between £899 and £1000 each. East Coulsdon RA suggested that along with

a couple of other roads in our area that Woodplace Lane should be made a 20mph Zone. We held a public meeting in 2010 and also met with Croydon Council

Local councillors and the Police to discuss the problems of road safety in Woodplace Lane.

 

Although there was a strong support from local residents for a 20mph speed limit in these roads. Croydon Council said it was not their policy to introduce

20mph in Croydon other than outside schools, the two in Coulsdon being by the Schools in Jubilee Way and Keston Avenue Old Coulsdon.    

 

Croydon did agree to introduce improved signage, chicane marking signs at the double bend and remark the white lines.  However, the problem of speeding

persists and a number of serious accidents have occurred such as the one pictured here that happened in May this year. We believe there is now sufficient

evidence to show that 20mph limits do reduce the number of accidents that happen on a particular stretch of road.

 

Croydon Council now has a new administration which is not so opposed to 20mph limits. If the majority of residents in these road would like to see a 20mph limit in

Woodplace Lane

If you agree, that Woodplace Lane should be 20 MPH please download and return the form from our download page to

ECRA  50 Reddown Road Coulsdon CR5 1AX or  info@eastcoulsdon.co.uk

 


THE A23 BRIGHTONS ROAD IS USED FOR A NUMBER OF OTHER CAR AND BIKE RALLIES. THESE INCLUDE

   

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 The Historic Commercial Vehicle Rally from Crystal Palace to Brighton will pass through Coulsdon (should use town centre) and Hooley from about 8.00 to 10.30am on first Sunday in May  www.hcvs.co.uk/


 

 The London and Surrey Mini Owners will also pass through Coulsdon (using the Bypass) on their way to Brighton from about 9.30am in May

 

 http://www.london-to-brighton.co.uk/


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RAC Brighton to London Future Car Challenge  (for Hybride and Electric cars) on the first Saturday of November 2013 passing through Coulsdon late morning  http://www.hybridandelectriccars.co.uk/news/666692/rac_brighton_to_london_future_car_challenge_is_a_world_first.html 

Veteran London to Brighton Historic Car Rally (Old Crocks) from Hyde Park Palace to Brighton over 500 Veteran cars will pass through Coulsdon (should use the Town Centre) and Hooley from 8.00 am to 11.00 am  1st Sunday in November-  for more information use www.lbvcr.com/index.cfm


BRITISH HEART FOUNDATION LONDON TO BRIGHTON CYCLE TOUR

   

 

 

From September to 6th December 2016 GTR are consulting on their proposed timetable for 2018 when the work on rebuilding London Bridge is complete and the full Thameslink service will be introduced. East Surrey Transport Committee which represents local rail users criticized and continued to make representation about the 2015 timetable and some of the early proposals for 2018 in their view the service provided for Coulsdon is worse than that previously provided in 2014.

 

The main criticisms of the 2015 timetable at Coulsdon South were : The loss of local services to Reigate and Tonbridge; No additional peak hour services; the lack of off-peak service to Victoria and extended journey times to central London. At Coulsdon Town it was the reduction in the number of off-peak trains. The main criticism for 2018 timetable was that all trains serving both Coulsdon Stations would come from north of Blackfriars and any disruption north of Blackfriars would mean that the service to Coulsdon stations would be disrupted for several hours, while most other stations on the network would have an alternative service starting from central London.

 

We are pleased that GTR have addressed these issues in their latest proposals and there is an improvement to services to the Coulsdon area. At Coulsdon South there is an additional peak hour train, local services to Reigate and Tonbridge are restored and an all-day off-peak service to Victoria. The Tattenham Corner and Caterham lines will now remain Southern Metro services. As a result at Coulsdon Town the off-peak service will be restored to 4 trains per hour along with a faster evening and Sunday service.

 

These are the main proposal that GTR are asking you comment on :

Coulsdon South  Trains per hour (tph)

Peaks hours

Mon to Sat daytimes

Evenings

Sundays

6tph

4tph

3 tph

3tph

4 to London Bridge

2 will continue to Bedford and 2 to Peterborough

2 to London Bridge starting from Horsham and continuing to Peterborough

2 to London Bridge starting from Horsham and continuing to Peterborough

2 to London Bridge starting from Horsham and continuing to Peterborough

2 to Victoria

2 to Victoria Starting from Reigate or Tonbridge

1or 2 to Victoria  starting from Tonbridge

1 or 2 to Victoria  starting from Tonbridge

 

Coulsdon Town Trains per hour (tph)

Peaks hours

Mon to Sat daytimes

Evenings

Sundays

4tph +

4tph

2 tph

2tph

2 to London Bridge

2 to Victoria

+ some West London line services

 

2 to London Bridge semi-fast

2 to Victoria all stations via Norwood Junction and Crystal Palace starting at Coulsdon Town

2 to London Bridge semi-fast

2 to London Bridge semi-fast

All joining with a Caterham portion at Purley

All London Bridge trains joining with a Caterham portion at Purley

All London Bridge trains joining with a Caterham portion at Purley

All London Bridge trains joining with a Caterham portion at Purley

 

East Surrey Transport Committee is asking you to support these proposed changes and in particular are asking you to support the following changes :

 

Tattenham Corner line & Coulsdon Town

1.       Keeping The Caterham and Tattenham Corner line as part of Southern Metro services and to use only 5 coach trains. This will prevent these lines suffering major disruption when there are problems north of London Bridge. Question   19 Answer  : Yes

2.       Diverting the existing Victoria to Sutton via Crystal Palace and West Croydon off-peak service to Coulsdon Town. This will reinstate 4tph off peak at Coulsdon Town and Reedham. And provide an all stations Victoria service Question 58 Answer   : Yes

 

Also see West London Line 7 below

 

Coulsdon South

 

3.       Increase the peak hour service from 5tph to 6 tph (4 London Bridge & 2 Victoria) with 4 tph in the off-peak 2tph to Clapham Junction and Victoria & 2tph to London Bridge, Blackfriars, St Pancras, Finsbury Park and Peterborough. Also reintroduce a direct Reigate and Tonbridge service.  Questions 39 & 40 Answer : Yes

4.       An option to improve the evening and Sunday service from Victoria from 1tph to 2tph improving the service at Coulsdon South from 3tph to 4tph. Question 47  Answer  : Support first options with trains to Reigate and Tonbridge (this makes the off-peak and Sunday service consistent all week).

5.        

West London Line

 

6.       The consultation asks if peak West London line train should start or terminate at Selhurst, Purely or Coulsdon Town (as the 07.30 Coulsdon Town to Watford does now). We are asking you to support starting at Coulsdon Town Without the peak service at Coulsdon Town and Reedham would be reduced to 4tph. Question  63 Answer  Coulsdon Town

7.       Other Comments on West London Line? We are asking for the present hourly off-peak service from East Croydon to Watford via Shepherd’s Bush to be increase to 2tph. Question 64 Answer  : Increase the service to Watford to 2tph.

 

Are there any down side ?

·         There are very few but a couple Coulsdon South would lose its Sunday Bognor service but gain an extra train per hour.

·         Tattenham Corner trains would be slightly slower as they will join and divide all day with Caterham Train at Purley, but the evening and Sunday services with be consistent and faster.

·         There will be fewer stops at Norwood Junction.

 

You respond by emailing GTR at gtr.timetableconsultation@gtrailway.com or by post  to GTR 2018 timetable Consultation, Eastside Offices, Kingscross station, London N1C 4AP or by filling in the questionnaire response form on the GTR web site using the guide above  www.southernrailway.com/your-journey/timetable-consultation

 

 

If you require more information please email

 

Charles King   Chair :  East Surrey Transport Committee   eastsurrey.tc@talktalk.net