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As you may know ECRA and the othr RAs have been lobbying the Council to – first of all not to take away the one hour free parking in Coulsdon, replacing with 30 minutes free and 30 minutes paid for.  We also lobbied for a second hour after the one hour free paid for to accommodate those who need longer than one hour for such things as Physio and Dental appointments, hairdressers, etc.  This would still allow for a turnover of vehicles.

See email trail below from Councillor Stuart King, Cabinet member for Transport, Charlie King, Chair and myself of ECRA

Councillor King made the decision to re-introduce one hour free parking in Croydon’s District Centres including Coulsdon, for confirmation at the TMAC.  This reverses the decision to remove said one hour free parking and replace with 30 minutes free and 30 minutes paid for taken by a previous TMAC and Chair.  The re-introductions of the one hour free was confirmed at the TMAC on the 8th February for introduction in July.  Although we asked that the one hour free should be in the whole of the CPZ of Brighton Road and Chipstead Valley Road it is likely that the decision may only return the one hour free to Brighton Road.

Councillor King says he has sympathy with the second hour paid for and has asked for further, wider input on this idea and in consultation with cabinet colleagues agreed to refer the suggestions to one hour free and a second hour paid for to the Council’s recently established Small Business Commission in part of the Brighton Road.

Representative from small and medium sized enterprises (SMEs) in Croydon are being invited to share their views on how the Council can support companies in becoming more successful.

ECRA and the other RAs are continuing to push for as much parking as possible within Coulsdon.

20 MPH

The 20 MPH speed limit is no in place for the whole of Croydon in designated roads. There are conflicting views on the benefits and problems with 20 mph – we should accept that different people have different views and priorities. 

ECRA’s view has always been that we support 20MPH limits in individual roads were there is a clear safety case and/or the residents support them but not a blanket ban. We wrote to Croydon Council  to object to the way the consultation was worded in that there was not a simple Yes/No option for are 5.




After massive protest by users and local residents On Tuesday  22nd March London Travelwatch  Rejects the proposals to close 51 GTR/Southern  booking Offices in the proposals Present Form

Hopefully this is the end of the threat to close the ticket offices at Coulsdon and Purley and other Croydon Stations.  However, ECRA, Croydon RAs and East Surrey Transport Committee will keep and eye out for any future threat which may arise in the future.

Unfortunately it was not the end and they have so soon come back with further proposals which  ECRA are studying the revised information, but can see little  difference other than the full range of tickets are to be sold

GTR/Southern revised Booking Office proposals

Partial ticket office, Hosted & Concourse sales Point

The stations listed below will have a Host on duty for times significantly in excess of the current ticket office hours. The Host will provide assistance with ticket purchases, information provision and assisted travel at the times shown within the station concourse or gateline areas. These times are the minimum hours that the Host will be available. The Host will have a hand held ticketing system that will enable them to provide tickets that are not available from the self-service machines.

The Ticket Office at these stations will be open in the morning peak hours to ensure that passenger’s needs for tickets are met at these busy times (the proposed opening times of the ticket offices are shown below). The primary point for purchasing tickets on the station will be from the self-service machines, from the Station Host or at morning peak time through the ticket office. The Station Host will also have access to a ticket office machine within the concourse area, on a Hosted Point, to enable ticket types, not available through self-service or the hand held machine, to be issued. Each of the stations listed will have a member of staff on duty from the first train of the day until the last train has departed, 7 days a week.

The Ticket Office at these stations will be closed and the primary point for purchasing tickets on the station will be from the self-service machines or from the Station Host. In the event that a ticket type is not available through these machines then the Host will have access to a ticket office machine within the concourse area, on a Hosted Point, to enable those ticket types to be issued, or within the ticket office where space in the concourse is limited. The stations Hosting Point will continue to comply with the regulations and stipulations within Schedule 17 of the Ticketing and Settlement Agreement.  Each of the stations listed will have a member of staff on duty from the first train of the day until the last train has departed, 7 days a week.

Coulsdon South * Mainline & Coast 0610–1935 0700-2025 0910-1640 3 YES Mon-Fri 0530-2200 Sat 0600-2200 Sun 0730-2200. Ticket Office closed. Yes / No
Purley Metro 0555–2005 0555-2025 0810-1645 4 YES Mon-Sat 0500-2200 Sun 0730-2200. Ticket Office closed. Yes / Yes
Sanderstead * Mainline & Coast 0610-1930 0700-1335 0810-1625 2 Installed 2016 Mon-Sat 0605-2200 Sun 0805-2200. Ticket Office closed. Yes / No
South Croydon * Metro 0620–1945 0620-1945 0810-1545 2 YES Mon-Sat 0540-2200 Sun 0700-2200. Ticket Office closed. Yes / No
Merstham * Mainline & Coast 0610–1935 0610-1935 0830-1640 2 Yes Ticket Office 0700-1000 Mon-Fri. Host hours Mon-Sat 0530-2200 Sun 0730-2200. Yes / No
Reigate * Mainline & Coast 0610-1245 0710-1345 Closed 3 YES Ticket Office 0800-1100 Mon-Fri. Host hours Mon-Sat 0530-2200 Sun 0730-2200. Yes / No


We wish to thank all those who protested  we may ask again in the future once the issues have been studied.


The CCCG  can – occasionally – change (or partially change) their minds!!

As you may be aware, the successful warfarin service which was held at Old Coulsdon Medical Practice (OCMP) was removed by the Croydon Clinical Commissioning Group without consultation or notice and the service and the contract was awarded to Boots in their stores via the pharmacists.

There have been very many protests at this and the inconvenience which this caused to residents/ patients. As a result,  ECRA wrote to Chris Philp MP , the Chair and vice CEX of ‘Healthwatch’ – Chairs of both ‘Health and Well Being Board’ and ‘Health Scrutiny’ at London Borough of Crouton who keep an eye on the doings of  the CCCG who made this decision.  CCCG are not very good at consulting before they act I am afraid

Chris Philp MP received a letter from the CCCG  which confirms that Boots are now seeing patients at Old Coulsdon Medical Practice so, should this affect you or someone you know, please let them know that they should contact OCMP to find when the clinics are held. Please pass on if there are other you may know who could be affected by this change.


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As of the 19th November the CALAY Centre Car Park – with entrance via narrow entrance in Chipstead Valley Road is OPEN.  If your car is less than 2.1 metres wide you will be able to use this car park – you may need to bring your wing mirrors in.

The charges are:

One hour = 0.50p

Two hours = £1.00

Four hours = £2.00

Free after 6.00 p.m. and all day on Sundays but not Bank Holidays

A Planning Application for a new entrance from Woodcote Grove Road has been submitted.


Sutton and East Surrey Water Company to increase their reserve supplies of water they has obtained planning permission to construct a Storage Lagoon (reservoir) in the field between Lyndhurst Road and Rectory Lane. They have agreed to keep the local footpaths open during construction which will take up to 3 years. However, the routes down which the construction traffic has been envisaged has Chipstead Valley Road as the main route. Coulsdon West RA, and othersn  are in discussion on restricting the time when this traffic can use CVR, especially during the morning and late afternoon / evening during the rush hours on this very constricted road.


Coulsdon South Project flowers - Sept 2014.jpgVolunteers from East Coulsdon Residents Association and Friends of Farthing Downs are ‘beautifying’ Coulsdon South Station by digging up flower beds which have been overtaken by weeds and litter and replacing with flowers.  They are generally working there one day a week – not always the same day – donating plants from their own and others gardens and purchasing flowers and bulbs.  The Station staff have been very supportive of this project and have helped by watering when volunteers are not around or when it does not rain.  Notices with information on Farthing Downs and how to get there from the station

Oasis Byron School has developed from a struggling school to where they are now, on the cusp of outstanding. But they are still not attracting as many local children as they would like.  Please see the posters below and support if this is appropriate for you.


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Danny’s Fish & Chip  Shop in Old Coulsdon, Tudor Parade, battered the opposition to sine the contest run by Proctor and Gamble.  Danny is often found singing to his customers and says they just buy the best of everything and don’t cut corners on quality.  Once they have found a good supplier they go back. They won by getting the most votes by the public.  Danny, his wife Nursen and son Anil wish to thank all those who voted for them to enable them to win, as do his father and mother who started the business 40 years ago.


Transport for London have now raised the speed limit on the Coulsdon Bypass to 40mph throughout – another success for ECRA


The ECRA Facebook page is now up and running. If you’re on Facebook, please “like” the page so we can get some traffic to and from and start to make it a bit more useful and interesting. You’ll see I’ve added some basic info, but feel free to add more.  Anyone can view the page, you don’t need to be signed up, but you will need to sign up if you want to add anything to it.


ECRA Needs your HELP

Coulsdon is a nice place to live and East Coulsdon Residents’ Association (ECRA) is one of the four residents’ associations that represent local residents in Coulsdon. We have a very good record of getting things done in our area.  Each quarter we produce the ECRA Review that provides you with local information on what’s happening in Coulsdon on: health, traffic and transport, local history and other events in and around Coulsdon. We also have a web site www.eastcoulsdon.co.uk

Coulsdon – the most desirable place to live in London!
Parts of the East Coulsdon RA’s area (including parts of West Coulsdon) are ranked as the 132nd most desirable place to live in the UK, out of over 7100 locations. It appears that this may be the highest rated location in Greater London!

Here are some examples where we have put forward the views of our residents’ with positive outcome.

  • Engaged with local developers, .
  • Improved train service at Coulsdon South & Coulsdon Town.
  • Increased parking at Coulsdon South station.
  • Improved bus service on routes 405 and 434.
  • Lobbied Croydon over the need for more School places in Coulsdon.
  • Thames Water Flood improvements.
  • Supported appropriate development in Coulsdon town centre,
  • Supported Waitrose distribution centre in Ullswater Crescent with over 400 jobs.
  • Road safety measures in a number of roads including Woodplace Lane.
  • Repair of Coulsdon Town centre roads.
  • Helped save the Bowling Green in Marlpit Lane.
  • Increase in speed on the Bypass to 40 mph throughout
  • Increased number of residents’ parking bays.
  • Engaged with Croydon Council in discussions on Coulsdon Town Centre and Cane Hill developments.

We run a number of successful social functions each year as a way of ‘meeting your neighbour’. These include quiz nights and a Christmas Dinner Dance.

However, we can only achieve these things on your behalf with your help.  ECRA Committee has only eight members most of whom have been shouldering the burden of work for many years. Likewise, many of our Road Stewards have been active for many years and need to step down.


We urgently require:

  • More (up to fifteen in total) Committee members to share the tasks of supporting our community.
  • Ten new Road Stewards to deliver the Review and collect subscriptions. The Committee cannot continue to double up on the vacant rounds.
  • We also need understudies for all the tasks associated with producing The Review:  editorial, advertisements, distribution.

Please seriously consider volunteering your help so that ECRA can continue its good work. You are welcome to come to a Committee meeting before making a commitment.

Charles King           Chair:  East Coulsdon Residents’ Association

Contact: Charles King, Tel: 01737 554841 or Maureen Levy (Secretary), Tel: 01737 555231,


Over the last couple of years as part of their Flood prevention programme Thames Water constructed a number of retention tanks on the sewage system in Coulsdon. These tanks can fill at times of heavy usage or heavy rainfall which is more prominent these days and then discharge when the flow of sewage and rain water subsides.  All these tanks have been very successful except for the one at the beginning of Reddown Road between Marlpit Lane and Fairdene Road. This tank has filled on a number of occasions, but failed to empty when the flow subsided and unfortunately this has affected a small number of properties in Reddown Road.  This has resulted in the tank having to be emptied by Tanker to prevent flooding of sewage in houses in Reddown Road. Thames have visually inspected them and also inspected it with CCTV on a number of occasions and tell us that the internal flow control mechanism becomes jammed by a mixture of wet wipes, disposable nappies and coking fat. We are still in discussion with Thames Water to try to resolve this problem.

Planning Issues

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If you wish to investigate current or decided Planning Application you can do so on The London Borough of Croydon’s Public Access Planning Register.

Fill in the details – address of, if you know it the Planning Application Number  omitting the year and the /P and only entering the five figure unique number.

You can obtain a single planning application or for a particular address or, in the advanced search a range of dates.

You can also obtain Planning Applications forms via this link from LBC or you can submit through The Planning Portal  which enables you to submit Planning Applications electronically.

The Portal also contains other useful planning information such as Development Plans and Proposals Maps for over 50 planning authority areas across the UK, including the London Borough of Croydon (these are statutory documents prepared by local planning authorities that set out the guidelines for local development); planning contacts in your local area, information on how the planning system works, relevant planning regulations and guidance notes; information on how to determine if planning permission is required, how you go about obtaining it and appeal procedures and the latest planning news and information on job vacancies in planning.

The Interactive House and Interactive Terraced House are also there but you can access directly if you follow the links below.


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The Planning Portal have an Interactive House and an Interactive Terraced House on their website which can help guide you and give advice on what requires approval from the Local Authority and what is permitted development. You just need to point your pointer on screen to any part of the house and a short Guidance Note will appear from which you can follow the links to more detailed advice should you wish.:-



Current Issues Around East Coulsdon

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A Publication by the Residents’ Associations in the South of the Borough

 Introduction and Background

Representatives from the Residents Associations (RAs) of Hartley & District, Old Coulsdon, Coulsdon West, East Coulsdon, Kenley & District, Purley & Woodcote, Sanderstead and Riddlesdown have been in discussions with the Croydon Clinical Commissioning Group (CCG) regarding the provision of urgent care facilities within the Borough of Croydon and in particular regarding Purley Hospital. The RAs have had several meetings with the CCG, involved Croydon HealthWatch, local MP Chris Philp and have also written to Jeremy Hunt, MP; the Secretary of State for Health. However, following a re procurement report issued by Croydon CCG on 1 September 2015, the RAs have now on 20 October 2015 wrote to all 16 Croydon CCG Governing Board members expressing grave concerns about this report; a summary of which is below.

In January 2016, the 16 members of the Croydon CCG Governing Body will be asked to make a decision on the future of urgent care provision in Croydon. This is a once in a generation opportunity to provide a comprehensive and effective urgent care system for Croydon. The Governing Body will be asked to make this decision on the basis of a CCG re procurement report dated 1 September 2015. This report gives 8 scenarios, which appear to polarise the decision between Walk-in Urgent Care provided at GP practices, or at Minor Injuries Units. The RAs believe there is another option, which is a combination of extended GP practices and a walk-in Urgent Care Centre at Purley Hospital.

Purley Hospital was redeveloped with £11m of public money in 2012/13 to provide improved outpatient facilities and an Urgent Care Centre for the local population. The redevelopment was conceived with the intention of providing a walk-in urgent care facility, and hence the site is already suitable:

We are pleased to report that the CCG agreed to place one of the GB Hubs which they commissioned to replace Urgent Care Centre and which reflect what was already available at the Urgent Care Centre. 8 amd to 8 p.m.

Pigeon Droppings in Town Centre Under Coulsdon Town Centre Railway Bridge

In February 2014, the Council withdrew the steam cleaning of the pavement due to their cuts.  This has resulted in the pavement being in an appalling dirty mess and a health hazard.  ECRA along with the other RAs and business groups are pressing the new administration in Croydon to re-introduce the steam cleaning under this and other railway bridges.  We are also pressing Network Rail to improve the pigeon proofing of this and other bridges in the area to prevent the pigeons gaining access. We continue to press for this to be done.  They have improved but has not resolved the problem.  We are therefore pressing for further improvements.

Town Centre CCTV Cameras

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After Lengthy campaigning, Croydon Council installed two CCTV cameras in the centre of Coulsdon.  However, these do not give a clear view of the northern part of the Town Centre, Chipstead Valley Road and Lion Green Road.  East Coulsdon Residents Association is campaigning for additional CCTV camera to cover these areas but so far the Council are refusing to install additional cameras.  We continue to campaign

Cane Hill Road Names

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The names of the road in phase one are all names after the old wards of Cane Hill Hospital, these include such names as Chauce, Olave,  Paxton and Salisbury etc.We are also pleased that, after discussions with Barrett Homes and Croydon Council the main spine road was named Cane Hill Drive and not Cane Hill Road as originally proposed. Other names are of people who have been connected to Cane Hill in the past.

Below is a link to Cane Hill development.


Lion Green Car Park / Calat Centre/ Coulsdon Community Centre

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ECRA,, along with other representatives from Coulsdon met with Brick by Brick about 18 months ago and several times since.  The plans for these three sites (they later split the Calat Centre site into two) were: –

  • To build flats on the car park of Coulsdon Community Centre (CCC), thus leaving little or no public parking for the Centre and thereby making CCC unviable.
  • Knock down the Calat Centre and built flats on there. No public parking.
  • To build flats on(LGRCP) along with a Health Centre and, maybe, the Library.  There would only be 30 to 50 public car parking space if we were lucky.

Therefore only 30 to 50 public car parking spaces in total.

We suggested that instead they:

  • They move all community activities to the Calat Centre, including the Health Centre and maybe the Library which would save the old Smitham Calat building which already has a hall, which could be used for the Theatre Company, badminton etc and many more rooms than at the CCC and which, being on one floor, was more accessible to the town, transport and disabled. This building could easily accommodate, and more accessibly, the 95% usage rate at CCC would more than cover the activities at the Calat. There would also be over 30 plus parking spaces. In fact, Brick by Brick have agreed with CCC that they will build an additional theatre hall on Calat.
  • To build the flats which were proposed on the Calat site to the CCC site and knock down the less accessible CCC building (with the agreement of CCC board). That those homes built on CCC should be family homes (33 two/three-bedroom house with parking spaces plus two flats at each end).  Under the original plans both the Community Centre and the old Smitham School building would have been knocked down – at least one has been saved.  Calat is in the centre of town, more accessible and would have parking remaining.
  • Build flats on LGRCP with 120 long and short term public car parking spaces
  • There is a separate outline planning application which proposes that the Medical Centre is built in the southern part of the Calat site towards Woodcote Grove Road.  Awaiting NHS go-ahead and funding and the RAs have made suggestions on changes to the lay-out which would result in more parking and better access.

Brick by Brick have agreed to these changes and there will be 116 public long and short-term parking spaces.  Not quite 120 but we are still working on that.

The four Planning Application were approved by the Council.

Whilst the Residents Associations and the residents would much prefer LGRCP to remain as a much loved car park THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, whether Labour, Conservatives or other are in power. The Mayor of London  is changing his London Plan (which supersedes Croydon’s Local Plan) to insist that Croydon build 10,000 more homes on top of the 30,000 already in the pipeline and that those are to be mostly high rise flats and little or no parking – public or private. He already objected that there are already too many parking spaces proposed on LGRCP in the current plans.

The compromise plans on offer are the best of a bad job and, unless you want worse which is threatened coming down the line from the Mayor then it is up to the residents if they want to keep on fighting.

Whilst there are justifiable concerns about the infrastructure problems these and other planning developments already in place will and have caused –  ECRA and the other RAs are also concerned -, the proposed Health Centre will at least partially address medical provision. We continue to fight for a A23 exit from Cane Hill.

Blue Plaque For Gorgon Pirie And Ralph Dunkley Unvieled On Old Comrades Wall

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A blue plaque commemorating Gordon Pirie’s athletic achievements was unveiled on 17th October  on the Old Comrade’s wall near to the entrance of the South London Harriers  Club for whom Gordon ran.  The plaque was unveiled by the Mayor of Croydon, Ralph Dunkley, who is also mentioned on the plaque and ran with Gordon in the 4 x 1500 relay world record team  and Gordon’s nephew Andrew Munday.  Ralph is a local Purley resident.  Gordon was a local man who grew up in Coulsdon and attended PurleyGrammar School, developing his skills by running across Farthing Downs and taking part in school athletics beating older competitors.  He won silver in the 1956 Olympics, broke 5 world record and once broke the 4 minute mile.

After the unveiling ceremony we went into the Old Comrades Club for speeches and refreshments

It is hoped that there will be more art put into the town and would appreciate any suggestions you may have.  Please  call 01737 554443

Consultation On The Proposed GTR/Southern 2018 Timetable

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From September to 6th December 2016 GTR are consulting on their proposed timetable for 2018 when the work on rebuilding London Bridge is complete and the full Thameslink service will be introduced. East Surrey Transport Committee which represents local rail users criticized and continued to make representation about the 2015 timetable and some of the early proposals for 2018 in their view the service provided for Coulsdon is worse than that previously provided in 2014.

The main criticisms of the 2015 timetable at Coulsdon South were : The loss of local services to Reigate and Tonbridge; No additional peak hour services; the lack of off-peak service to Victoria and extended journey times to central London. At Coulsdon Town it was the reduction in the number of off-peak trains. The main criticism for 2018 timetable was that all trains serving both Coulsdon Stations would come from north of Blackfriars and any disruption north of Blackfriars would mean that the service to Coulsdon stations would be disrupted for several hours, while most other stations on the network would have an alternative service starting from central London.

We are pleased that GTR have addressed these issues in their latest proposals and there is an improvement to services to the Coulsdon area. At Coulsdon South there is an additional peak hour train, local services to Reigate and Tonbridge are restored and an all-day off-peak service to Victoria. There is a further option to improve evening and Sunday services to Victoria. The Tattenham Corner and Caterham lines will now remain Southern Metro services. As a result at Coulsdon Town the off-peak service will be restored to 4 trains per hour along with a faster evening and Sunday service.

These are the main proposal that GTR are asking you comment on :

Coulsdon South  Trains per hour (tph)
Peaks hours Mon to Sat daytimes Evenings Sundays
6tph 4tph 3 tph 3tph
4 to London Bridge

2 will continue to Bedford and 2 to Peterborough

2 to London Bridge starting from Horsham and continuing to Peterborough 2 to London Bridge starting from Horsham and continuing to Peterborough 2 to London Bridge starting from Horsham and continuing to Peterborough
2 to Victoria 2 to Victoria Starting


Reigate or Tonbridge

1or 2 to Victoria  starting from Reigate or Tonbridge 1 or 2 to Victoria  starting from Reigate or Tonbridge


Coulsdon Town Trains per hour (tph)
Peaks hours Mon to Sat daytimes Evenings Sundays
4tph + 4tph 2 tph 2tph
2 to London Bridge

2 to Victoria

+ some West London line services


2 to London Bridge semi-fast

2 to Victoria all stations via Norwood Junction and Crystal Palace starting at Coulsdon Town

2 to London Bridge semi-fast 2 to London Bridge semi-fast
All joining with a Caterham portion at Purley All London Bridge trains joining with a Caterham portion at Purley All London Bridge trains joining with a Caterham portion at Purley All London Bridge trains joining with a Caterham portion at Purley

East Surrey
Transport Committee is asking you to support these proposed changes and in particular are asking you to support the following changes :

Tattenham Corner line & Coulsdon Town

  1. Keeping The Caterham and Tattenham Corner lines as part of Southern Metro services and to use only 5 coach trains. This will prevent these lines suffering major disruption when there are problems north of London Bridge. Question 19 Answer  : Yes
  2. Diverting the existing Victoria to Sutton via Crystal Palace and West Croydon off-peak service to Coulsdon Town. This will reinstate 4tph off-peak at Coulsdon Town and Reedham. It will also provide an all stations Victoria service. Question 58 Answer : Yes 

    Also see West London Line 7 below

Coulsdon South

  1. Increase the peak hour service from 5tph to 6 tph (4 London Bridge & 2 Victoria) with 4 tph in the off-peak 2tph to Clapham Junction and Victoria & 2tph to London Bridge, Blackfriars, St Pancras, Finsbury Park and Peterborough. Also to reintroduce direct Reigate and Tonbridge services.Questions 39 & 40 Answer : Yes
  2. An option to improve the evening and Sunday service from Victoria from 1tph to 2tph improving the service at Coulsdon South from 3tph to 4tph. Question 47 Answer  : Support first options with trains to Reigate and Tonbridge (this makes the off-peak and Sunday service consistent all week).

West London Line

  1. The consultation asks if peak West London line trains should start or terminate at Selhurst, Purely or Coulsdon Town (as the 07.30 Coulsdon Town to Watford does now). We are asking you to support starting at Coulsdon Town Without the peak service at Coulsdon Town and Reedham the service would be reduced to 4tph. Question 63 Answer  Coulsdon Town
  2. Other Comments on West London Line? We are asking for the present hourly off-peak service from East Croydon to Watford via Shepherd’s Bush to be increase to 2tph. Question 64 Answer : Increase the service to Watford to 2tph.

Are there any down side ?

  • There are very few but a couple Coulsdon South would lose its Sunday Bognor service, but gain an extra train per hour.
  • Tattenham Corner trains would be slightly slower as they will join and divide all day with Caterham trains at Purley, but the evening and Sunday services with be consistent and faster.
  • There will be fewer stops at Norwood Junction.

You respond by emailing GTR at or by post  to GTR 2018 timetable Consultation, Eastside Offices, King’s Cross station, London N1C 4AP or by filling in the questionnaire response form on the GTR web site using the guide above  www.southernrailway.com/your-journey/timetable-consultation

If you require more information please email

Charles King   Chair :  East Surrey Transport Committee  

Charing Cross Trains Return To London Bridge

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From Monday 29th August 2016

Part of the new Concourse underneath London Bridge opens with a new Entrance from St Thomas Street.

Southeastern Charing Cross Trains will now call again at London Bridge for Waterloo East and Charing Cross. Except in the reverse peak flow where there will be no trains from Charing Cross and Waterloo East to London Bridge  between 08.00 and 09.15 and in the evening there will be no trains from London Bridge to Waterloo East between wand  16.30 and 18.00. Cannon Street services will no longer call at London Bridge until January 2018.

Transport News

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The basic off-Peak services from Coulsdon South will be at 09 and 39 to London Bridge, St Pancras and Peterborough 20 and 50 past the hour to Clapham Junction and Victoria.From Coulsdon Town at 12 and 42 all stations to London Bridge 29 and 59 all stations to East Croydon and fast to London Bridge

There are changes to first and last trains First Trains from:  Coulsdon South will be 05.48 and 06.09 see note and from Coulsdon Town at 05.59 and 06.09Last train from London will be 23.47 London Bridge to Coulsdon Town   23.57 London Bridge to Coulsdon South and 00.08 Victoria to Coulsdon South

Later trains will run on Friday and Saturday nights.

However, GTR have announced that not all trains will start on the Monday 21st May 2018  – the following trains from Coulsdon will not Run

Coulsdon South

  • 09 to London Bridge and Peterborough starts Monday 28th May 2018
  • Coulsdon South 09.39 to London Bridge and Peterborough starts Monday 4th June 2018
  • Coulsdon South 15.39 to London Bridge and Peterborough starts Monday 4th June 2018
  • Coulsdon South 18.09 to London Bridge and Peterborough starts Monday 28th May 2018
  • Coulsdon South 21.39 to London Bridge and Peterborough starts Monday 4th June 2018
  • Coulsdon South 06.27 to Gatwick and Horsham starts Tuesday 22nd May 2018 (travel via East Croydon)
  • Coulsdon South 06.57 to Gatwick and Horsham starts Monday 4th June 2018 (travel via East Croydon)
  • Coulsdon South 07.55 to Gatwick and Horsham starts Monday 4th June 2018 (travel via East Croydon)
  • Coulsdon South 10.23 to Gatwick and Horsham starts Monday 4th June 2018 (travel via East Croydon
  • Coulsdon South 13.53 to Gatwick and Horsham starts Monday 4th June 2018 (travel via East Croydon)
  • Coulsdon South 16.53 to Gatwick and Horsham starts Monday 28th May 2018 (travel via East Croydon)
  • Coulsdon South 19.53 to Gatwick and Horsham starts Monday 4th June 2018 (travel via East Croydon)

Coulsdon Town

  • 43 all stations to London Bridge no date for reinstatement.
  • Coulsdon Town 09.43 all stations to London Bridge no date for reinstatement.

Please check on www.Nationalrail.co.uk as these may change at any time



Poor Performance: The Service at local stations has been absolutely appalling in the weeks leading up to Christmas and the weeks after services resumed, this was taken up by East Surrey Transport Committee and GLA member Steve O’Connell with David Scorey and Alex Foulds the two Southern Service Directors. While Chris Philp MP, along with a number of other MPS raised these problems in Parliament with the Rail Minister Claire Perry MP.

Major Changes at LONDONBRIDGE: From December 2012 until December 2018 London Bridge Station is being rebuilt 3 platforms at a time from west to east. This will mean that from January 2015 Southeastern Trains to Waterloo East and Charing Cross will no longer stop at LondonBridge for up 18 months. While other services will be subject to time changes, diversions and will not be able to call at LondonBridge at all Southern and a South Eastern for up to 6 months and FCC Thameslink for 3 years. To keep a track of progress and changes to train time please consult.  www.Thameslinkprogramme.co.uk

New Timetable : The worse service provided by the new timetable at many local stations but at Coulsdon South and Norwood Junction was also raised at the meeting with Steve O’Connell, Southern took the view that things may be worse in the Croydon area but they were better elsewhere. Steve O’Connell has asked to meet with Southern again in February.

If you are not happy with the change to the services at Coulsdon South in particular Steve O’Connell is urging you to write/email to David Scorey with a copy to him before February.

Coulsdon South:  trains will be 16 & 46 past the hour to East Croydon and LondonBridge. At 26 & 59 past the hour to East Croydon, Blackfriars and Bedford. The 09.25 to Victoria and the 09.28 to LondonBridge will still run but many vary by a minute or so in the final timetable.  In the down direction, Horsham trains will be earlier at 25 & 55 past the hour and GatwickAirport / ThreeBridges will be 14 & 44 minutes past the hour.

Coulsdon Town:  Trains will be at 01 & 37 minutes past the hour to East Croydon and LondonBridge and at 21 & 51 minutes past the hour to Tattenham Corner.

Trains will leave LondonBridge: at 20 & 50 for CoulsdonTown and 27 & 57 for Coulsdon South (spacing even worse than we thought). At present there are no changes to rush hour services.

Fares from January Oyster Pay as you Go cards can be used to Redhill and GatwickAirport. This is an add on fare and sometimes the paper ticket especially for groups of three or more will still be cheaper. Accompanied children under the age of 11 can now also travel free on National Rail services in the London Zones.

Old Lodge Lane Bridge : Unfortunately due to bad weather and high winds the bridge replacement at Old Lodge lane was unable to be carried out and will have to be rescheduled


No change to local buses in the Coulsdon and Purley areas.  New Countdown signs have been provide at Coulsdon South Station in the Brighton Road for route 405 towards Redhill in Marlpit Lane for 60 & 404 to Old Coulsdon.

From 2012, all London Bus stops are now regarded as request stops and, if you want a bus to stop at a stop, you must indicate to the driver by waving your hand and you must ring the bell if you want to get off at the next stop. During the course of the year, the red request bus stop signs will disappear and all bus stops will become white bus stops and request stops.

TfL have now launched and APP that you can download to find out the time of buses at a stop near where you are using GPS technoligy. Also you can “text a stop for the next bus” All stops should now have a plaque that enables you to text 87287 with the stop plate number and within a minute they will text you back with the times of the next buses. This cost 12p to receive, but some networks also charge to send to 87287 (you do not have to be at the stop if you know your stop number you can text before you leave home). In addition you can also check your local route and stop from the internet log on to http://countdown.tfl.gov.uk/#/and type in the stop number or the route number then select the direction and stop name from the map.

Fares In London: From January 2016 the daily all zone Travelcard will rise to £17.20  in the peak and remains at £12.10 in the off-peak. However, the Oyster cap has become a daily cap at £11.80 regardless of what time you travel. For Oyster users who travel travel twice or more in a week after 9.30 a.m. or 8 times or more in a month TfL will reimbuse their Oyster Card at the end of each month and credit it with the difference between £11.80 and £8.90 for any of those trips that started after 9.30 a.m.  The Oyster bus fare will rise to £1.50 and the daily cap will still apply at £4.50.

There is also now a new  One- Day bus and tram pass costing £5.00 which can be bought from local stations and newsagents.

Steam Trains: Orient Express

6th February – Victoria to Guildford.  Return to Victoria via Redhill – Loco Clan Line, Merchant Navy Class – Coulsdon South Approximately 15.15 p.m

12th March – Victoria to Guildford.  Return to Victoria via Redhill – Loco Clan Line, Merchant Navy Class – Coulsdon South Approximately 15.15 p.m

Note: These trains times and routes can be altered or cancelled at short notice, even on the day.  Trains may also run up to 15 minutes early or late.  A useful web side to check and for other steam trains – www.uksteam.info/tourists/trs.htm

January 2016